Florencia Rodriguez is an editor, writer, and educator. In 2022, she was appointed director of the School of Architecture at the University of Illinois at Chicago. From 2010 to 2017, she published PLOT, and since 2017, co-founded NESS, an publishing platform for alternative forms of design criticism. In this conversation, Jarrett and Florencia talk about the role of design criticism in contemporary practice, practicing design from the margins, finding new formats for design discourse.